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		<title>Richard of St. Victor&#8217;s De Trinitate, Ch.19 (Joseph)</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 16:13:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here Richard spells out more fully than before the nature of shared love (condilectus). Here he offers one main argument (A.1-3) from supreme shared love for the Trinity and then a follow-up argument (B.1-3) again from supreme shared love for the Trinity. So (A) consider the nature of shared love: If one person loves another <a href='http://trinities.org/blog/archives/1369'>[...]</a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here Richard spells out more fully than before the nature of shared love (<em>condilectus</em>). Here he offers one main argument (A.1-3) from supreme shared love for the Trinity and then a follow-up argument (B.1-3) again from supreme shared love for the Trinity. So (A) consider the nature of shared love:</p>
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<li>If one person loves another and only he loves only her, there is love but not shared love.</li>
<li>If two mutually love only each other (if the affection of each goes out to the other), again there is love but not shared love.</li>
<li>Shared love exists only if a third person is loved by two persons jointly:</li>
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<blockquote><p>“Shared love is properly said to exist when a third person is loved by two persons harmoniously and in community, and the affection of the two persons is fused into one affection by the flame of love for the third.” (Richard of St. Victor, <em>On the Trinity</em>, p.392)</p></blockquote>
<p>(This is as close as we ever get to a characterization of shared love.)</p>
<p>So, in divinity, if there is shared love, there are at least three persons.<span id="more-1369"></span> So supreme shared love requires at least three divine persons. Supreme shared love is of a kind that no creature could merit it or be worthy of it from its divine creator.</p>
<p>Next (B) consider further the nature of shared loved as a virtue:</p>
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<li>Supreme benevolence is supremely great. Supreme harmony is also supremely great. Each such virtue is of great value.</li>
<li>Any virtue that results from the combination of each such virtue is also supremely great.</li>
<li>But supreme shared love results from the combination of supreme benevolence and harmony. Such a virtue can’t be lacking in what is perfectly good. And supreme shared love can’t exist without at least three persons.</li>
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<p>Therefore, in divinity, if there is at least one person, there are at least three persons.</p>
<p>There’s a lot here. Much of it we have in effect already seen. I want to make only one comment about (A1). This doesn’t exactly say what Richard wants to say here. If one person loves another and only the first loves the second, then no one else loves the second. And if, in addition, the first loves only the second, then the first loves no one else. But it’s clear that Richard wants an example of unrequited love to contrast with his second example of mutual love between two persons alone.</p>
<p>For what it’s worth, I think there’s something deeply insightful here about the value of shared love. And even if we don’t think something like the following. The fact that any perfect being is essentially perfectly good is a reason to think that it must be that if there is some perfect being, then there is also another perfect being or even just some created being. Even if we don’t think this, so I say, perhaps we can agree that if there were three divine persons, there would be a distinctive kind of goodness in the world because of the existence of supreme shared love, one which wouldn’t exist if there were only two divine persons or even only one. If so, that is something for a Christian to recognize and celebrate.</p>
<p>That’s it for me on this series. Next up is Dale, who will bring us home: blogging on chs.20-25.</p>
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		<title>Richard of St. Victor&#8217;s De Trinitate, Ch.18 (Joseph)</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 00:51:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here is my paraphrase of the argument in ch.18: It might seem that supreme goodness can exist where one person supremely loves and receives nothing in return from the other person for full happiness. But in fact such supreme goodness can’t even exist where only two persons mutually love each other. Suppose that, in divinity, <a href='http://trinities.org/blog/archives/1365'>[...]</a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is my paraphrase of the argument in ch.18:</p>
<p>It might seem that supreme goodness can exist where one person supremely loves and receives nothing in return from the other person for full happiness. But in fact such supreme goodness can’t even exist where only two persons mutually love each other. Suppose that, in divinity, there are only two persons. Then each gives and receives love, and each gives and receives the pleasure that such love brings. If each is alone, neither receives such love nor such pleasure. So supreme generosity requires three persons. If, in divinity, there are only two, neither shares such pleasure. But each divine person, being perfect, is supremely generous. Therefore, supreme goodness requires that if there are at least two divine persons, there are at least three persons.</p>
<p>Note that the first sentence seems out of place and does no work here. Really the argument here only begins with the third sentence. The only new thing here is the mention of supreme generosity. Supreme generosity requires that each of two divine persons have a third divine person with whom to share love and the pleausre such love brings. Not so to share would be less than supremely generous. But I don’t see that we really have a new argument here for at least three divine persons (if God exists). So that’s ch.18. Next up will be ch.19, which will be my final post for the series.</p>
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		<title>Richard of St. Victor&#8217;s De Trinitate, Ch.17 (Joseph)</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 22:37:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So next up ch.17. Here it is short and sweet: Supreme happiness requires that if there is at least one divine person, there are at least two divine persons. Suppose, in divinity, there is only one person. Then (1) this person gives supreme love to no one and receives supreme love from no one. (2) <a href='http://trinities.org/blog/archives/1363'>[...]</a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So next up ch.17. Here it is short and sweet:</p>
<p>Supreme happiness requires that if there is at least one divine person, there are at least two divine persons. Suppose, in divinity, there is only one person. Then (1) this person gives supreme love to no one and receives supreme love from no one. (2) Such a person lacks the pleasure of love that one draws from another. (3) But nothing is better than such pleasure. So such a person, who lacks such supreme pleasure, isn’t supremely happy. (4) But any divine person, being perfect, is supremely happy. Therefore, supreme happiness requires that if there is at least one divine person, there are at least two divine persons.</p>
<p>A few comments:</p>
<p>Re (1): This assumes again that with a divine person supreme love is only between divine persons, who are equally perfect.</p>
<p>Re (2): This assumes again that the pleasure of love requires love.</p>
<p>Re (3) and (4): I wonder what exactly Richard means by happiness. My guess is that he means something like Aristotle’s <em>eudamonia</em> where someone is happy only if overall they are a success in life. Richard seems to think that supreme happiness includes supreme pleasure so that someone who has supreme happiness couldn’t have more pleasure. Is that right? I believe that God has pleasure: just because many of his desires are satisfied. But I’m also inclined to think that God suffers, not in the sense that he is affected by things contrary to his will. But rather God suffers in the sense that some of his desires are frustrated, e.g. because we freely do things or things occur as a result of such, that God desires we didn’t do or that didn’t occur. Now just because God suffers doesn’t mean he doesn’t have supreme pleasure. But I can’t help wondering whether if things had gone differently with some of our choices and their results, God might have had more pleausure than he actually does. But I’m also pretty sure that Richard needn’t base the claim that God has the pleasure love brings on the claim that God has supreme pleasure. Couldn’t he get that from the claims that God is supremely good and that the pleasure love brings is a supreme good that God needn’t forego for some contrary good that is equally good?</p>
<p>That&#8217;s it. After this, ch.18. Notice again we are building our way up to three divine persons. In ch.16 we had an argument about one divine person. In ch.17 we have an argument for at least two divine persons (if God exists). And in chs.18-19 we will have an argument for at least three divine persons (if God exists).</p>
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		<title>Richard of St. Victor&#8217;s De Trinitate, Ch.16 (Joseph)</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jan 2010 02:02:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So next up ch.16. Here’s my version of what goes on in this chapter: Full wisdom and power can exist in only one person. If, per impossibile, there is only one divine person, he can still have fullness of wisdom and power. The pleasures of wisdom and love differ. The pleasure of wisdom can be <a href='http://trinities.org/blog/archives/1348'>[...]</a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So next up ch.16. Here’s my version of what goes on in this chapter:</p>
<ol>
<li>Full wisdom and power can exist in only one person. If, <em>per impossibile</em>, there is only one divine person, he can still have fullness of wisdom and power.</li>
<li>The pleasures of wisdom and love differ. The pleasure of wisdom can be drawn from oneself. The pleasure of love must be drawn from another. Anyone who loves and desires to be so loved but doesn’t receive such love is displeased. But the pleasure of wisdom is even better when one derives it from oneself.</li>
<li>If, in divinity, there is only one person, such a person can have full wisdom. Full wisdom and full power can’t exist without each other. For suppose someone lacks omnipotence. If she doesn’t know how to obtain what she so lacks, then she lacks full wisdom. And anyone who unwillingly suffers some defect of wisdom lacks full power.  Therefore, if, in divinity, there is only one person, such a person can also have full power.</li>
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<p>Re 1: I like the implicit distinction here between what is a real and only a conceptual possibility. There can’t really be only one divine person. For, as Richard is trying to demonstrate, there must be at least three divine persons. But the concepts of full wisdom and power don’t conceptually imply the concept of more than one divine person.<span id="more-1348"></span></p>
<p>Re 2: Wisdom brings pleasure. If you desire wisdom and you have it and believe you have it, then you have the pleasure wisdom brings. And love also brings pleasure. If you desire love and you have it and believe you have it, then you have the pleasure love brings. That’s what you might think Richard would say. But he doesn’t say this exactly. Rather he says this. When you have the pleasure of wisdom, the object of your pleasure is not wisdom but rather yourself under the aspect of being wise. And when you have the pleasure of love, the object of your pleasure is not love but rather your beloved under the aspect of loving you. I like the implicit claim here that there is a kind of pleasure that is factive. If you have a certain kind of pleasure of wisdom, you must exist and be wise in order for you to have such pleasure. Anyone who had an intrinsically identical pleasure-state but was not wise would lack this kind of pleasure. And if you have a certain kind of pleasure of love, your beloved must exist and love you in order for you to have such pleasure. And anyone who had an intrinsically identical pleasure-state but had no beloved or had a beloved who did not love her would lack this kind of pleasure.</p>
<p>Re 3: This is a very interesting section. Do full wisdom and power imply each other? Does full wisdom imply full power? Richard seems to include in full wisdom knowing how to obtain what you lack. Let’s grant this. But Richard seems to assume, without argument, that if one lacks full power that can only be because one doesn’t know how to obtain it. On this assumption, it can’t be that one knows how to obtain full power but doesn’t choose to obtain it or even chooses not to obtain it. That’s not obvious. Does full power imply full wisdom? Again, Richard seems to assume, without argument, that anyone who suffers anything unwillingly lacks full power. Or to put it the other way around: anyone who has full power doesn’t suffer anything unwillingly. Arguably, full power includes irrestible will: so that it must be that what one wills is so. So, arguably, nothing is contrary to what one who has full power wills. But it’s consistent with this that something is so that one who has full power doesn’t will. One might have less than full wisdom, but not will that one have full wisdom. That’s just the kind of thing you’d expect if one really did suffer a defect of wisdom. After all, it’s not obvious that full power implies willing everything that is so. So it still might be that one who has full power suffers something unwillingly, not in the sense that it happens contrary to what he wills, but in the absence of any willing on his part concerning the matter.</p>
<p>Well, that’s enough on ch.16. Next is ch.17.</p>
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		<title>Richard of St. Victor&#8217;s De Trinitate, Ch.15 (Joseph)</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jan 2010 02:16:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So we’re done with ch.14. Now on to ch.15. Here’s a paraphrase of his argument: With divine persons, the perfection of one requires another, and so the perfection of a pair requires union with a third. Each such person is perfectly benevolent and so shares his perfection with the other. But if each is perfectly <a href='http://trinities.org/blog/archives/1344'>[...]</a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So we’re done with ch.14. Now on to ch.15. Here’s a paraphrase of his argument:</p>
<ol>
<li>With divine persons, the perfection of one requires another, and so the perfection of a pair requires union with a third. Each such person is perfectly benevolent and so shares his perfection with the other. But if each is perfectly benevolent, then each with equal desire and for a similar reason seeks a sharer of his joy. Why?</li>
<li>Well, if two such persons mutually supremely love each other, the love each has for the other includes supreme joy. If only the one is loved by the other, only the one has such joy. And if the second doesn’t have one who shares in love for a third (<em>condilectus</em>), the second lacks the sharing of joy. (We must wait until ch.19 for Richard to spell out more fully the idea of <em>condilectus</em>.) So that each may share such joy, each must share in love for a third.</li>
<li>So if those who mutually love each other have perfect benevolence and so they desire that each perfection they have is shared, then it must be that each with equal desire and for a similar reason has a third with whom to share love.</li>
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<p>Re 1. This is our conclusion: if there are at least two, there are at least three divine persons.</p>
<p>Re 2. The basic idea is this. The Father and the Son are perfect and perfectly love each other. Naturally, they take perfect delight in such love. The Father enjoys the love the Son has for him and the joy this brings. And so does the Son: the Son enjoys the love the Father has for him and the joy this brings. So each, being perfectly good, wants to share such love with another. The Father wants to share the love the Son has for him and the joy this brings with another. And the Son wants to share the love the Father has for him and the joy this brings with another. So each seeks out a third (the Spirit), one who is also loved by the Son and one who is also loved by the Father and also takes delight in such. To evaluate Richard’s argument here, we must consider what the mark of perfection is here. If perfection involves sharing and a perfect being is loved by another perfect being, will the first also share the perfection of being loved by the second? Richard apparently coins the term ‘<em>condilectus</em>’. We will meet this term again in ch.19.</p>
<p>Re 3. This is a summary of points made already.</p>
<p>In ch.16, there will be a change of gear. There he will go back to the start and work his way up to the claim that if at least one, then there are at least three divine persons. In ch.16 he claims that supreme power and knowledge can exist in a single person. In ch.17 he claims that supreme happiness can’t exist in fewer than two persons. And then in chs.18 and 19 he claims that supreme goodness and shared love can’t exist in fewer than three persons.</p>
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		<title>Richard of St. Victor&#8217;s De Trinitate, Chapter 14, Part 2 (JOSEPH)</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 22:53:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I (and so we) took a break from the Richard posts. But we now return. Perhaps at some point I&#8217;ll blog on some conferences I&#8217;ve been to: the Metaphysics of the Incarnation conference at the University of Oxford last September. And I might share a very brief talk I gave on the Trinity at a <a href='http://trinities.org/blog/archives/1326'>[...]</a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I (and so we) took a break from the Richard posts. But we now return. Perhaps at some point I&#8217;ll blog on some conferences I&#8217;ve been to: the Metaphysics of the Incarnation conference at the University of Oxford last September. And I might share a very brief talk I gave on the Trinity at a local church last October. But for now, on to the main attraction.</p>
<p>Richard has already argued in various ways that if there is so much as one divine person, there are at least three divine persons. But the arguments have all been a bit here and there. So to make the reasons even more evident, he plans to gather them all up into one. So here it is:</p>
<p>Suppose there is only one divine person: P.</p>
<p>1)      Then P doesn’t share his greatness.</p>
<p>2)      Compare two situations. In the first, P is the only divine person. In the second, P is not the only divine person; there is another: Q. In the second situation, P and Q love each other and P has the pleasure that love brings. So in the first situation, P lacks in eternity not only such love but also such pleasure.</p>
<p>3)      Anyone supremely good shares her greatness. (Not so to share is to retain something greedily. But anyone supremely good does nothing greedily.)</p>
<p>4)      Anyone supremely happy has such pleasure. (Not to have such pleasure is not to have an abundance of pleasure. But anyone supremely happy has an abundance of pleasure.)</p>
<p>5)      P is supremely good and happy.</p>
<p>So if there is at least one divine person, there are at least two divine persons.<span id="more-1326"></span></p>
<p>Suppose there are only two divine persons: P and Q.</p>
<p>6)      Then P shares greatness. But P doesn’t share love or the pleasure that such love brings. (Only a person who has a partner and a beloved in the love shown him has the pleasure of love.)</p>
<p>7)      Anyone supremely happy shares love and the pleasure of love. (Nothing brings more pleasure than love.)</p>
<p>8)      P is supremely happy.</p>
<p>So if there are at least two divine persons, there are at least three divine persons.</p>
<p>Therefore, if there is at least one divine person, there are at least three divine persons.</p>
<p>There are two parts here. Let’s just briefly look at each in turn. So first let’s look at the section that aims to show that if there is at least one, there are at least two divine persons. Here I note only one thing: there’s an ambiguity in (2). It could mean that if there is only one divine person: P, then P doesn’t always love another, i.e sometimes P doesn’t love another. But it’s not clear this is right. This assumes that any creature begins to exist and so is not always around for P to love. But even if any creature does begin to exist, it still doesn’t follow that P doesn’t always love another. For it could be that at every time there is a creature that exists then and so there is someone around for P to love even if every creature begins to exist. It could also mean that if there is only one divine person: P, then P always lacks love of another divine person. This is true, in which case, Richard is not just speaking of love of another, but love of another divine person and so is relying on previous arguments for why the supreme love a divine person has includes love of another divine person.</p>
<p>Secondly, let’s look at the section that aims to show that if there is at least two, there are at least three divine persons. Here I comment on only one matter: a point of interpretation to do with (6). We have seen before Richard’s idea that love always involves a second person and sharing love always involves a third person. And here he seems to rely on what he said previously. I can see that, by Richard’s lights, P doesn’t love and so have the pleasure love brings unless there is a second P loves. And I can also see that, by Richard’s lights, P doesn’t <em>share</em> love unless there is, not only a second (Q) P loves but, a third with whom P shares his love of Q. But Richard says: “He alone possesses the sweetness of such delights who has a partner and a loved one in the love that has been shown to Him”. It’s not clear which of these two things Richard is saying. First, he is saying that P alone has such pleasure who has another to love, in which case the partner is the loved one, and then he later makes the point that to <em>share</em> love involves a third person. Secondly, he is saying that P alone has such pleasure who has a second to love and a third to love, in which case the partner is not the loved one. The problem with the first interpretation is that it makes the statement seem out of place coming as it does right after the claim that if there are only two divine persons, there’s no sharing of the pleasure of love. The problem with the second interpretation is that it makes the statement seem wrong by Richard’s own lights.</p>
<p>Well, this is enough to be getting on with for chapter 14. Next up chapter 15 on the claim that two divine persons must seek out a third divine person with equal desire and for a similar reason.</p>
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		<title>Richard of St. Victor&#8217;s De Trinitate Ch.14 (Joseph)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[We now turn to Richard’s De Trinitate Book 3, Chapters 14-19 Here’s my formulation of the first part of ch.14: Suppose there&#8217;s at least one divine person: P. Then (1) P is so benevolent that he wants to have no good that he does not want to share. And (2) P is so powerful that <a href='http://trinities.org/blog/archives/1068'>[...]</a>]]></description>
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<p>We now turn to Richard’s <em>De Trinitate</em> Book 3, Chapters 14-19</p>
<p>Here’s my formulation of the first part of ch.14:</p>
<p>Suppose there&#8217;s at least one divine person: P.</p>
<p>Then (1) P is so benevolent that he wants to have no good that he does not want to share.</p>
<p>And (2) P is so powerful that everything is possible for him.</p>
<p>And (3) P is so happy that nothing is difficult for him.</p>
<p>And (4) if (1)-(3) are true, there are at least three divine persons.</p>
<p>Therefore, (C) If there is at least one divine person, then there are at least three divine persons.<span id="more-1068"></span></p>
<p>Re 1: I think this means that for every good that P has, he wants to share that good with another, at least if this is so much as possible. But this isn’t exactly what Richard says. If you want to have no good that you don’t want to share, you might satisfy your desire by giving up every good that you have. But, more relevantly, if you want to have no good that you don’t want to share, you might satisfy the first desire by making it so that every good that you have you want to share. But you can have the first desire without satisfying it and so without having the second desire.</p>
<p>Re 2: Surely, not everything is possible. But, as we know, it’s hard to define omnipotence. And I don’t suppose Richard needs anything as strong as that God has the power to bring it about that contradictions are true.</p>
<p>Re 3: I see how a premise about divine happiness could provide, with other premises, an independent line as to why if there’s one, there’s another divine person. But it doesn’t seem necessary to the argument, if we have a premise about divine benevolence already, which should, if what he said in previous chapters is right, with other premises, provide reason to think if there’s one, there’s another divine person. And besides, what’s this about being so happy that nothing is difficult? You might well think this should be linked, not with happiness, but rather with power. God is so powerful that nothing is difficult for him. I suppose there could be a link between happiness and easiness: if you’re happy, things are not difficult for you. Maybe. It might depend on what your happiness consists in. In any case, it’s hard to see how this adds much of anything to the argument. If I were Richard, I would have put something about being so knowing that he uses his power to bring about what he wants. But that’s just me.</p>
<p>Let’s reconstruct:</p>
<p>Suppose there is at least one person: P</p>
<p>Then (1*) P is so knowing, powerful, and good that he shares all that he has that he can.</p>
<p>And (2*) P has a perfect nature that he can share.</p>
<p>So (C1) there are at least two divine persons.</p>
<p>And if (C1), then (3*) P has a perfect love with another divine person that he can share.</p>
<p>Therefore, (C) if there is at least one divine person, there are at least three divine persons.</p>
<p>This could be something like what Richard has in mind, but spelled out a bit more.</p>
<p>Richard, though, says he hasn’t even started the main summary of his argument yet. He says this argument is enough, but he will makes things clearer. So next up, we will look at the clearer presentation. But this would be a good time for people to sum up any objections they have to Richard&#8217;s previous arguments that tie in to my proposed reconstruction. I confess I&#8217;ve not followed every objection and reply so far. And I suspect there may be more like me.</p>
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		<title>Brentano and the Trinity, Part 1 (Joseph)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[What a great beard! Franz Brentano (1838-1917), a forerunner of the phenomenological movement and the analytic movement, was of great influence on folk such as Edmund Husserl, Alexius Meinong, Anton Marty, Carl Stumpf, and Kasimir Twardowski. He is best known for his work Psychology From an Empirical Standpoint (1874). And in that work he is <a href='http://trinities.org/blog/archives/240'>[...]</a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p style="text-align: center"><img width="199" src="http://people.bu.edu/wwildman/WeirdWildWeb/media/galleries/philosophy/modern_late/Brentano1.jpg" alt="Franz Brentano" height="275" /></p>
<p align="center"><small><em>What a great beard!</em></small></p>
<p><a href="http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/brentano/"><strong>Franz Brentano</strong></a> (1838-1917), a forerunner of the <a href="http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/phenomenology/">phenomenological movement</a> and the analytic movement, was of great influence on folk such as <a href="http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/husserl/">Edmund Husserl</a>, <a href="http://mally.stanford.edu/meinong.html">Alexius Meinong</a>, Anton Marty, <a href="http://psychclassics.yorku.ca/Stumpf/murchison.htm">Carl Stumpf</a>, and Kasimir Twardowski. He is best known for his work <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Psychology-Empirical-Standpoint-International-Philosophy/dp/0415106613">Psychology From an Empirical Standpoint</a> (1874). And in that work he is best known for his view that the mark of the mental is intentionality:</p>
<blockquote><p>Every mental phenomenon is characterized by what the Scholastics of the Middle Ages called the intentional (or mental) inexistence of an object, and what we might call, though not wholly unambiguously, reference to a content, direction toward an object (which is not to be understood here as meaning a thing), or immanent objectivity. Every mental phenomenon includes something as object within itself&#8230; (Brentano, <em>Psychology</em>, 88)<span id="more-240"></span></p></blockquote>
<p>So Brentano thinks all and only mental phenomena have intentionality, i.e. are directed toward an object.</p>
<p><strong>Brentano was from a Catholic background, but defected, partly due to problems he had with the doctrine of the Trinity.</strong> Carl Stumpf, in his &#8216;Reminiscences of Franz Brentano&#8217;, writes about an incident in 1870:</p>
<blockquote><p>[...] on 29 April, having come back from a vacation in Aschaffenburg, [Brentano] visited me and raised certain doubts about the dogmas of the Trinity and Incarnation which seemed insoluble to him despite all the usual distinctions between substance, subsistence, substitution, nature, person and hypostasis. [...] Brentano&#8217;s motives [to defect from the Church] were of a theoretical nature, they were simply the result of <strong>internal contradictions in the Church&#8217;s doctrine which even his penetrating mind, after years of wrestling with the problem, could not resolve</strong>. For quite a while after his decision he did not tire of carefully re-examining the inferences which had brought it about, nor of trying every conceivable possibility for a way out. On 19 November he wrote to me in Göttingen of an <em>enneakilemma</em>, a nine-termed disjunction, in which he had summarised the contradictions in the dogma of the Trinity. (<em>The Philosophy of Brentano</em>, edited by Linda McAlister (London: Duckworth, 1976), pp.23-4, bold emphases added)</p></blockquote>
<p>I don&#8217;t know whether the enneakilemma still exists. I would love to read it. Who knows what&#8217;s there? Perhaps it&#8217;s a killer objection. Or perhaps it&#8217;s rather like things I&#8217;ve already seen or come up with myself. Be that as it may, <strong>Brentano had an interesting account of substances and I hope to show next time how one can apply this to come up with an interesting account of the Trinity</strong>. So stay tuned!</p>
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