I cannot seem to post my web address so I will give the title on yahoogroups. To discuss the manifold contradictions of the doctrine of the trinity.

Trinity_Vs_Oneness@yahoogroups

I cannot seem to find Trinitarains willing to come out from thier comfort zones of hit and run tactics, in posting of failed apologetics to discuss these thier contradictions.

I’m just saying the logical extension of these lines of thinking (Where Jesus is God, YHWH is God – yet YHWH and Jesus are not the same) creates two separate beings who are God – add holy spirit – and you have three: your trinity.

You must admit that they are separate beings – Jesus died, YHWH did not. Just because all three fall under the classification of God does not mean there is one God. I am a human, you are a human. There is not one human – there are 6 billion humans. We all fall under the classification of human – yet there is not one human. These are simple terms.

Not supposed to be three beings, of course (unless we’re talking about what you might call an extreme form of Social Trinitarianism). But they gotta be three somethings, as some things are true of each, which aren’t true of the other two. Problem is, the obvious move is to make them three modes of God – roles, ways of appearing, centers of consciousness, ways of relating to himself. But as I’ve argued, that seems a theological… dead end, to put it nicely.

AnonMoos – I think Geisler counts as theologically trained, no? He’s dean of a seminary…