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	<title>Comments on: Dealing with Apparent Contradictions: Part 11 &#8211; One last problem for Rational Reinterpretation (Dale)</title>
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	<description>theories about the father, son, and holy spirit</description>
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		<title>By: Dale</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 00:30:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Suarez... he&#039;s one of those guys I chicken out on! I think R. Cross needs to write a book about him. :-) 

I need to think more about this issue of the Trinity and universals - I think nominalism is one reason why there was a turn towards different kinds of unitarianism circa late 1500s through much of the 18th c. (BTW - I&#039;m a nominalist for purely metaphysical reasons.)

What&#039;s disturbing is that on the face of it, some kind of realism about universals is required by patristic (if not creedal) orthodoxy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Suarez&#8230; he&#8217;s one of those guys I chicken out on! I think R. Cross needs to write a book about him. <img src='http://trinities.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>I need to think more about this issue of the Trinity and universals &#8211; I think nominalism is one reason why there was a turn towards different kinds of unitarianism circa late 1500s through much of the 18th c. (BTW &#8211; I&#8217;m a nominalist for purely metaphysical reasons.)</p>
<p>What&#8217;s disturbing is that on the face of it, some kind of realism about universals is required by patristic (if not creedal) orthodoxy.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 03:39:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can appreciate the boldness of such a post as this one!

Yeah-- I suppose if you are a nominalist on the question of universals (of any sort) then some doctrine that says there are three distinct X&#039;s that have the numerically same Y-kind-instantiation is going to be a problem. And this-- is more or less what happened in much Trinitarian speculation in the early to middle 14th c. Once Ockham started shaving---theories like those of Aquinas, Henry of Ghent and Duns Scotus appeared less persuasive to crowds of young graduate students (or the equivalent). Though, I hope I&#039;m wrong on this-- and that just more historical research will uncover vast fields of Trinitarian speculation hitherto unknown to us/me. I wonder whether Suarez has a place in this history?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can appreciate the boldness of such a post as this one!</p>
<p>Yeah&#8211; I suppose if you are a nominalist on the question of universals (of any sort) then some doctrine that says there are three distinct X&#8217;s that have the numerically same Y-kind-instantiation is going to be a problem. And this&#8211; is more or less what happened in much Trinitarian speculation in the early to middle 14th c. Once Ockham started shaving&#8212;theories like those of Aquinas, Henry of Ghent and Duns Scotus appeared less persuasive to crowds of young graduate students (or the equivalent). Though, I hope I&#8217;m wrong on this&#8211; and that just more historical research will uncover vast fields of Trinitarian speculation hitherto unknown to us/me. I wonder whether Suarez has a place in this history?</p>
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